[Pmwiki-users] Markup: pm[[wiki]] is not a link like [[pm]]wiki

Patrick R. Michaud pmichaud
Mon Dec 13 15:41:03 CST 2004

Oh, I understand entirely about how prefix[[link]] would be useful
in a language such as German -- I just hadn't ever been exposed to
it prior to creating the capability.  Give me a couple of days to
brainstorm ways to fit it into the current code w/o breaking some
of the 2.0 stuff already made and I'll see what I can do.


On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 11:12:30PM +0100, Stephan Schildberg wrote:
>    Building  a  plural  in English is different from other languages. Its
>    more easy regarding the creation of a plural.
>    1. the more easy ones
>    Auto, Autos - (cars) German with Latin origins
>    Fenster,  Fenster - (windows), very often children or foreigners build
>    a "false" plural, with Fenster*s*, but German is not that logic!
>    Schuh, Schuhe - shoe, shoes
>    Ok, so far this is almost solved with [[something]]s
>    Now,  it  happens  very often we have words build like this, awful for
>    Non-Germans:
>    Rand,  R?nder  - border, borders, which is a reason German and similar
>    languages are not as good supported as English, you lucky.
>    PmWiki  can  nothing  do  about  cases  happen inside these strings; I
>    accept it..
>    2. This issue is the one I am talking about:
>    Building terms in English syntax is mostly word1 + SPACE + word2
>    Languages with Latin origin are more alike.
>    Doing  this  in  German it looked like word1  + word2 + word3 + wordX.
>    German  syntax  is famous for its long glued words, they think in this
>    way.  Reading those weird words is not always easy  for them, but they
>    can  invent  instantly  new  long  words. Very famous (for Germans and
>    Austrians who tend to longer words) is
>    Donaudampfschiffahrtsgesellschaftskapit?nsm?tze,  which  is  not not a
>    beauty  of  poetry,  but  its a word. This word consists of 6 terms (1
>    terms   is   already   combined   of  two)   Donau  dampf  schiffahrts
>    gesellschafts     kapit?ns     m?tze     (captains    hat    of    the
>    Donau-Steam-Boat-Corporation).
>    In  that  case  your  text  often  refers  to  Schiffahrtsgesellschaft
>    (Boot-Corporation)  and  you point to an example which is in the class
>    of Schiffahrtsgesellschaft (Boat-Corporation) , but a particular case:
>    Dampfschiffahrtsgesellschaft   (Steam-Boat-Corporation),  you would of
>    course    link   to   Steam-[[Boat-Corporation]],   but   the   result
>    typographically is not consistent.
>    Our language is mined with that way of building words.
>    I  am  by far not able to help you in any way, maybe someone who is in
>    the  same  position than me can give assistance. This is one reason to
>    contribute  to  the German doc, to enable more people to dive into the
>    prettiness  of  PmWiki  in  their own tongue, because we need a lot of
>    slightly different ways of speech, which mean slightly different point
>    of  views, to get together an idea of the entire world. Sorry if I was
>    a bit off-topic in your opinion.
>    Stephan.
> On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 08:32:32PM +0100, Stephan Schildberg wrote:
> This makes "wiki" part of the link as in  [[pm]]wiki, but a prefix like 
> "pm" of  pm[[wiki]] does not make it part of this link.
> Is there a reason I have to know?
> In German this extended feature would be very useful.
> I thought about adding a prefix capability but decided it was
> too close to being a "gratuitous feature" (PmWikiPhilosophy #3)
> and couldn't think of any good uses for it.
> I'm not sure how hard it would be to add it, seems like it
> ought to be possible w/o too much difficulty.
> Pm

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