[pmwiki-users] Re: off-topic: Behaviour of non-existiant home page (was: Nested groups)

[chr at home.se]

On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Neil Herber wrote:

> At 2005-06-02  10:53 PM -0500, Patrick R. Michaud is rumored to have said:
> >I'll be the first to admit that the current behavior isn't entirely
> >obvious, but I'm also uncertain as to what the better alternative is.
> >It doesn't seem entirely right to me that Main.PageNotFound appears
> >up for every non-existent page, but perhaps that's what it should
> >be.  (We'd also have to carefully consider webcrawler ramifications.)

I just looked at http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Test1 and now it works as it 
should. However, maybe the text could be improved for this particular 
case? Currently it says:

	We couldn't find a page called "Test1". You can: 

	* Create Test1.Test1? 
	* Create Test1.HomePage? 
	* Create Main.Test1? 

	Or, perhaps the page you want is listed below: 

	Test1 /
	  NewPage
	  RecentChanges
	  SomePage

I think one thing that is confusing here (when the user only specified the
name of a group) is the phrase

	We couldn't find a page called "Test1". You can:
	* Create ...

If we had a hiearchical structure where there could actually be a page 
called simply /Test1, then the sentence makes sence. In this case however, 
don't we mean something more like

	We couldn't find a primary page for the group "Test1". You can:
	* Create ...
	...
	
	The pages in group "Test1" are listed below.
	...

The drawback with this is of course that the same phrase cannot be used if 
the person had actually specified a page within some group...  I guess we 
could either use separate "error-pages" for these cases, or use 
conditional statements to produce different texts?

/Christian

Btw, I remember us having more or less this discussion a while back... 
does anyone have a link to those posts? What was the reason we chose the 
current solution?

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44               http://www.md.kth.se/~chr