[pmwiki-users] Group & subgroup behavior

[Joachim Durchholz]

Patrick R. Michaud schrieb:
> The biggest negative I see with the reiser4-inspired proposal
> is the need for the colon to a sibling link.

One downside is unavoidable here.

Either the current page is also the current group, in which case 
accessing child pages will require a prefix.
Or the parent page is also the current group, in which case accessing 
sibling pages will require a prefix.

Pick your evil ;-)

 > It seems to me
> that sibling links are by far the most common, and so requiring
> a colon on each one optimizes markup the wrong way.

Hmm... Links to child pages could well become common. Particularly if 
group pages are to contain some sort of directory of their subpages.

OTOH I see that all existing wikis have sibling links, so there's value 
in keeping backwards compatibility. I also have to concur that the "one 
huge group" wiki is probably the most relevant use case, in which case 
all links are sibling links.

> It also goes against the natural inclination of most filesystems,
> in which a bare name "B" within file "A" refers to a file named
> "B" in the same folder as "A", and not to a child of "A".

OK, now *that's* an argument that helps sort out intuition.

Seems like we have a consensus of what's to be considered the "current 
directory/group": it's the parent of the current page.

Unless I read any serious objections, I'll update the Proposals page to 
nail that down and give link syntax designers a firm ground to start from.

Regards,
Jo