[pmwiki-users] lots of problems when redirecting or rewriting URLs

[DaveG]

Waylan: Appreciate the response, but I'm a little confused about what 
you're suggesting -- I think all the references to multiple index.php's 
are get mixed.

Waylan Limberg wrote:
> On 1/17/06, DaveG <pmwiki at solidgone.com> wrote:
>> I tried the Alias approach. I put the line in pretty much every location
>> on my .htaccess with 500 errors each time.
>>
>> I checked in /var/log, but there is no apache or apache2 directory. I
>> tried writing the rewrite log to the /var/log directory, but I presume
>> there is a privs issue as the log file was never created.
>>
>> So, now I'm back to rewrite. I just have the last step to make.
>> From: http://xxx/~nepherim/pmwiki/Main/Homepage
>> To:   http://xxx/~nepherim/Main/Homepage
> 
> baes upon previous comments, I'm assuming your using an index.php
> file. 
Correct, I have an index.php in my pmwiki directory:
    <?php
    include('pmwiki.php');

> Try putting the index.php file at http://xxx/~nepherim/index.php
> which contains:
> 
>   <?php
>   chdir('pmwiki');
>   include('pmwiki.php');
I have this.

> Then make sure your rewrite rules are in the .htacess file in the same
> dir as index.php pointing to said index.php. 
Here I think you mean that I move my .htaccess to 
http://xxx/~nepherim/.htaccess. Although I'm not sure what you mean by 
"same dir as index.php pointing to said index.php."

> Then, the index.php file
> sould include pmwiki/pmwiki.php and run as if its in the pmwiki/
> directory.
Not sure which index.php you mean here. The one in /~nepherim/pmwiki/ or 
in /~nepherim/. I'm how either location would work.

>> So near, yet seemingly so far :)
>>
>>   ~ ~ Dave
>>
>> Joachim Durchholz wrote:
>>> Daniel Friedmann schrieb:
>>>> Hello
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to shorten the URLs:
>>>>
>>>> from
>>>> http://spampal.de/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HomePage
>>>>
>>>> to
>>>> http://spampal.de/pmwiki/Main/HomePage
>>>>
>>>> or even better to
>>>> http://spampal.de/Main/HomePage
>>>>
>>>> How can I achieve this when my PmWiki is located in
>>>> /var/www/spampal.de/htdocs/pmwiki?
>>>>
>>>> First of all, I only have very basic knowledge of Linux but have a
>>>> dedicated Debian server for free (donated to the SpamPal project) so I
>>>> can't ask my provider to help me for all the little Linux things I might
>>>> need.
>>>>
>>>> I read http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Christian/RedirectURI and tried all
>>>> three ideas with my paths but nothing worked.
>>>>
>>>> I also have access to the Apache httpd.conf but adding a line like
>>>>      Alias /pmwiki/ /var/www/spampal.de/htdocs/pmwiki
>>>> or
>>>>      Alias /wiki "/var/www/spampal.de/htdocs/pmwiki/pmwiki.php"
>>>> didn't work as well.
>>> The syntax is
>>>    Alias desired-url-prefix filepath-prefix
>>>
>>> One thing that *might* work is
>>>    Alias / /var/www/spampal.de/pmwiki.php
>>> or
>>>    Alias / /var/www/spampal.de/pmwiki.php/
>>> This should result in Apache turning
>>>    http://spampal.de/Main/Page
>>> into
>>>    /var/www/spampal.de/pmwiki.php/Main/Page
>>>
>>> You can check that by looking into these files:
>>>    /var/log/apache2/access_log
>>>    /var/log/apache2/error_log
>>> To keep a continuous eye on the logs, log in using SSH or (if you have
>>> it) the serial console and do
>>>    tail -f /var/log/apache2/access_log /var/log/apache2/error_log
>>> so you can see what's the actual result.
>>>
>>> The above Alias incantation should work if Apache does things in this way:
>>> * URL-to-filename mapping
>>> * Split off the end of the path until a filesystem object is found
>>> * Find the type of the filesystem object, determine appropriate Action
>>>    ("serve" for .html, "execute" for PHP, etc.)
>>> * Put the split-off parts into the PATH_INFO environment variable
>>> * Execute the action
>>> If this works, you don't even need CleanUrls :-)
>>> (CleanUrls is geared towards people who can't use Alias because they are
>>> restricted to changing the .htaccess file - Alias is disallowed in
>>> .htaccess.)
>>>
>>> Hope that gets you started. Feel free to come back if Alias doesn't
>>> work; in that case, we'll try CleanUrls anyway.
>>>
>>>> What makes the ideas on http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/CleanUrls
>>>> very complicated are the comments in between. There are several comments
>>>> for shorter and/or better alternatives but also some comments with
>>>> drawbacks for them.
>>>>
>>>> I don't quite know what is the best working solution which is
>>>> recommended.
>>> The problem is that the best working solution depends on the way the
>>> machine is set up. It's a big, big mess, and not going to be prettier
>>> over time.
>>> (Lighttpd might be an alternative; I've been seeing more and more
>>> mentions in Google. I don't think an options for newbies struggling with
>>> Debian at this time though: I'd expect Software like Webmin and
>>> phpMyAdmin to interoperate better with Apache, Apache problems
>>> nonwithstanding.)
>>>
>>>  > This is very frustrating because I really tried dozens of
>>>> very similar and completely different solutions but haven't succeed so far.
>>> That's normal. Looking in the error log isn't a very prominent advice,
>>> so most newbies just see 404 or 500 errors and get no clue about what
>>> exactly went wrong or where to look. (I've had the same experience
>>> initially.)
>>>
>>> I seriously recommend reading http://httpd.apache.org , particularly the
>>> sections that deal with URL-to-filesystem mapping (DocumentRoot, Alias),
>>> redirection (Redirect and relatives), rewriting (RewriteRule,
>>> RewriteBase, RewriteLog), and .htaccess handling (AllowOverride).
>>>
>>> Hope this all helps :-)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jo
>>>
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