[pmwiki-users] Selecting a Wiki engine...

Henrik Bechmann henrik.bechmann at sympatico.ca
Tue Oct 3 15:11:19 CDT 2006


Pm,

BTW, will page text variables accept arrays?

(:staff: [Betty, Anne, George, Sam]:)

I thought I saw something like that whiz by in a message, but I can't 
find it...

- Henrik

Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 12:22:54PM -0400, Henrik Bechmann wrote:
>   
>> Patrick,
>>
>> See http://wiki.splitbrain.org/wiki:namespaces
>>     
>
> Ahhh, I see.  They essentially manage this by avoiding the problem
> of parent, ancestor, uncle, or cousin links -- i.e., you can
> address pages at or below the current group, otherwise you have
> to start at the root.
>
> Could work.  It still has a bunch of issues in a PmWiki context,
> however.  For example, a single name could be referring to either
> a group or a page, and it's not clear how one would manage group
> attributes.
>
> (I can give a longer detailed list if people think it would
> be helpful.)
>
> Thanks!
>
>   
>> Personally, I think it would be more fruitful (and less brittle) to 
>> think of the current PmWiki implementation as a *repository* of pages, 
>> with some way of structuring hierarchies on top of that with reference 
>> to the underlying repository. 
>>     
>
> This is what categories, trails, and other items are intended to
> help resolve.
>
>   
>> My hunch is that your page text vars may 
>> actually help in that regard (eg (:parentnode ParentGroup.PageName:)). 
>>     
>
> I think you may be right -- I'm still learning what all is possible
> within the context of page text vars.
>
> Pm
>
>
>
>   
>> Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
>>     
>>> On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 08:11:25AM -0400, The Editor wrote:
>>>  
>>>       
>>>> On 10/3/06, Thomas Voghera <thomasvoghera at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>    
>>>>         
>>>>>> - limitation to a two-level hierarchy (groups and pages)
>>>>>>        
>>>>>>             
>>>>> Is this about how pages can be organized? carved in stone?
>>>>>      
>>>>>           
>>>> But it is *possible* this hierarchy problem will be solved soon.
>>>> There was a very long list discussion on the subject a few months
>>>> back, and the resolution seemed to be there was not a simple way (yet)
>>>> to adequately qualify relative links (and avoid resulting
>>>> ambiguities).
>>>>    
>>>>         
>>> It's possible but not likely.  I've spent a *lot* of time over the 
>>> past five years thinking about hierarchical group implementations,
>>> and I don't like anything we've come up with better than the current
>>> Group.Name system.
>>>
>>> That said, this past week I heard through a couple of off-list
>>> discussions that DocuWiki now has a good hierarchical grouping
>>> system -- if someone wanted to check it out and report back it
>>> might be worth looking at.
>>>
>>>  
>>>       
>>>> I'm wondering if in the back of Pm's mind the new syntax for *$:vars
>>>> was a step toward solving this problem.  
>>>>    
>>>>         
>>> Nope, I haven't consciously made a connection between vars and
>>> hierarchical groups.  Sorry.
>>>
>>> Pm
>>>
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>>>  
>>>       
>> -- 
>>
>> Henrik Bechmann
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>> www.bechmannsoftware.com
>> Webmaster, www.dufferinpark.ca
>>
>>
>>     
>
>   

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