[pmwiki-users] Cookbook Ratings : Vote for the recipes you use
5ko at 5ko.fr
Mon Jan 18 08:25:29 CST 2010
I'm replying to my own arguments. :-)
On Monday 18 January 2010 14:18:19, Petko Yotov wrote :
> There are a number of benefits for not having the user/rating lists in
> extra pages.
> * Maintainers wouldn't have to add *-Ratings pages to their watchlists. :-)
> * It is easer to look at the lists of names, instead of going to another
> page. As people outlined before, more important than the numeric sum of
> the ratings is who are the people supporting / endorsing the program.
The *-Rating listings could be included in the main page, so they will be
> * It is easier for a visitor to edit the same page, than to go to another
> one. I believe the effort/confusion for a visitor going to a different
> page for longer comments, and to another one for a rating, and finding
> their way back to the recipe, is _more_ than the effort from a PmWiki
> expert to monitor his pages (that is even one page less to monitor per
There could be a direct link to *-Rating?action=edit as Peter suggested, this
should work. Upon saving the page, there could be a header with links back to
the recipe and to the comments.
Moreover, it will be easier for users to edit a page with just user listings,
than a page with the full documentation finding a section with the ratings.
Last, the users who install our recipes are actually wiki administrators, so
this should not be ectremely hard and copnfusing for them.
> * If we keep user lists in the same page, the cookbook category listings
> will need to open half the number of disk files, and this is 2x easier and
> faster for the server/filesystem. Even now, without the additional file
> reads, the server is sometimes slow, I'm not sure I want to add more load
> to it.
As Hans suggested, we could stop reading the *-Talk pages counting the number
of profile links. Or, as Dave suggested, we could store the ratings in the *-
> What I wrote above is what I was considering yesterday before enabling the
> ratings the way they are now. But as Hans, Dave and Peter are three of the
> most active recipe maintainers, and all voiced for using a separate page
> for the ratings, I'm very much considering a change. And I agree it should
> be the same for all pages, so should we change it, we should do it
I have disabled the message to add ratings in the GroupFooter, until we decide
what is best.
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