[pmwiki-users] New WikiGroups on pmwiki.org [Was: Volunteering for a PITS issue]

Peter Bowers pbowers at pobox.com
Sat Oct 13 11:30:51 CDT 2012


On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Petko Yotov <5ko at 5ko.fr> wrote:

> I feel that most visitors either search, or browse the Cookbook categories
> to find what they need or might use.


When I initially voted for this PITS entry it was after I had done a couple
searches for some topic and the results kept getting littered with Skins.
So that might be the "problem" we're speaking of wrt the current setup.  If
I am pleased with my current skin but I'm trying to search for some
non-skin recipe, how can I exclude skins from the search results?  (Maybe
some permutation of link=!Category.Skins which I couldn't find?)

Of course if we change the naming convention then you can just ignore
anything that ends with the prefix "*Skin".  Using a (somewhat contrived)
example I searched for this:

CSS

and then I searched for

CSS name=!*Skin

and ended up with a difference of over 50 skin results that I would
theoretically have to process.  (Yes, it's a bad example because "CSS" is
way too broad of a search in any event.  But this is the idea - making
searches effective.)

Since I'm aware of the capability of using name=!*Skin I would be able to
take advantage of the potential new naming convention.  (I would also have
to get rid of *Skin-Talk and *Skin-Users which gets to be a bit of a
hassle.)  However I *think* that's not a normally used feature and so would
probably be used by a relatively small number of administrators.  So having
the Skins moved into their own group would result in a more focused search.

I don't know if I am typical or not as an administrator.  I decide the skin
up front, install and configure it, and then I never think about my skin
again -- I focus exclusively on functionality after that.  So after my
initial skin configuration I would rather not have skins ever appear in my
search results.  I *think* that if someone is searching for a skin they
aren't interested in other recipes and if they are searching for something
not related to a skin then they won't want to see a skin -- in other words,
the sets should be mutually exclusive from a searching perspective.

In terms of the difficulty of figuring out what goes in the Skins group and
what doesn't go in the Skins group ... I think if it is an actual skin
(would be used in the $Skin = "Xyz" line in config.php) then it belongs in
the Skins group and otherwise it stays in the Cookbook group, even if it is
skin related.

-Peter
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