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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Thanks for your word, John.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>In my understanding, if I use a large text field, I then
cannot apply standard wiki markup to format the text within the field. Is that
correct? If so, that would be a major problem.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>I have two questions:</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2
color=maroon face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>1.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></font>Other than ViewTemplate, is there another method
that can make use of the :term:definition markup that the Wikiform creates?
GroupHeader does not seem to work with it, for example.</p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2
color=maroon face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>2.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></font>Can the Wikiform data be saved on a separate Group.Page.table
page which then is ‘(:include:)-ed’ in the Group.Page? Would that
also be complicated since I am also using the formtitle recipe to not have to
live with the numbered titles?</p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Looking forward to more ideas! I truly appreciate all
your help.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: pmwiki-users-bounces@pmichaud.com
[mailto:pmwiki-users-bounces@pmichaud.com] On Behalf Of John Rankin<br>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 6:00 PM<br>
To: pmwiki-users@pmichaud.com; pmwiki-users-request@pmichaud.com<br>
Subject: Re: [pmwiki-users] Wikiforms and templates (Sameer Kumar):pmwiki-users
Digest, Vol 25, Issue 59</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>On Thursday, 26 July 2007 5:00 AM,
pmwiki-users-request@pmichaud.com wrote:</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><snip></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> 3. Wikiforms and templates (Sameer
Kumar)</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>><snip></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>Message: 3</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:26:09 -0400</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>From: "Sameer Kumar"
<skumar@eharch.com></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>Subject: [pmwiki-users] Wikiforms and templates</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>To: <pmwiki-users@pmichaud.com></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>Message-ID:</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <94410484A515964193D7A45931A8F056C706BD@MAIL2006.eharch.com></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="us-ascii"</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>List:</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>I would like to have a pre-formatted
"infobox" (table) at the top of</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>every page in one of my groups with some standard
information.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>I would liket to have a form where the authors can
fill in the fields</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>and thereby create a new page. I want the entries
to become a part of</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>this "infobox" and locate itself on the
top of this page. Moreover, I</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>then want them to be able to add any text below
the infobox like any</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>other wikipage after they have provided the
standard</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>information.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>I have created a form using wikiform where I am
successfully getting the</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>input from the authors. For the pre-formatted
textbox, I have used a</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>ViewTemplate. </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>The problem is that the ViewTemplate does not
allow any other text added</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>directly to the page to show up. </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>Is there a way to use the ViewTemplate for only a
part of the</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>page? </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>Is there another recommended method for achieving
what I am</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>looking for?</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Sameer:</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Currently, the wikiforms recipe's form and view
templates apply</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>to the whole page, so it doesn't currently allow you
to use a</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>form to edit part of the page and the regular edit
function to</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>edit the rest. You have a couple of options, I think:</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>1 using existing functionality, make the last field a
type text</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> with size (say) 30*80, which will treat the rest
of the page </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> after your real fields as a textarea, and use a
view template</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> that omits the last field name, so the text
looks like normal</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> wiki page text</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>2 we would have to modify the forms recipe to support
something</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> like a (:startform:) (:endform:) directive
pair, which would</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> allow any part of a page to be treated as a
form; this could</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> be done, I think, but option 1 would be much
easier</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>I am doing something similar at the moment using
pmwiki to</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>write letters. The body of the letter is a big text
area, with</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>opening and closing fields wrapped around it.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Hope this helps.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>Thanks!</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>-- </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>JR</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>--</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>John Rankin</span></font></p>
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\) </span></font></p>
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