<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Thanks, Dave, Gilles and Amos, for your suggestions and moral support.<div><br></div><div>Randy</div><div><br></div><div>P.S. Does anyone else think that the ability to have integrated section editing would be a great enhancement to PmWiki? Take a look at my envisioned edit form below, and think how friendly that would be for authors who don't know much markup! I think one of the biggest impediments to PmWiki's wider adoption is the knowledge that it demands of authors.<br><div><br></div><div><br><div><br></div><div><div>On Aug 7, 2010, at 9:15 AM, DaveG wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; ">This looks like it might be a good starting point:<br> <a href="http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/Qnotes">http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/Qnotes</a></span></blockquote><div><br><div><div>I'll have to check that out. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On Aug 7, 2010, at 12:47 AM, ABClf wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; position: static; z-index: auto; "><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;min-height:14px">I didn't test it, but did you see this one : <a href="http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/LiveEdit">http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/LiveEdit</a> </div></div></blockquote>
</div></blockquote><br></div><div>Yes, I did see and test that recipe. (1) it didn't work for me. (2) Its look and feel are so different from PmWiki's look and feel, that even if I could make it work I probably wouldn't want to. I'd also rather not add new markup to the page if that can be avoided. </div><div><br></div><div>I don't see why adding new markup should be necessary. The strings that define sections, page text variables, and the title directive are all well-defined already. Foxedit, for example, can update anchored sections and page text variables without adding markup. (Fox can't update the page's title directive, however.)</div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On Aug 7, 2010, at 7:59 AM, Amos Satterlee wrote:</div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>If the entire page is open in the edit form, how can a link in the<br>page be active?<br><br></div></blockquote><br></div><div><i>The section-update links would not be in the area being edited. They would be on the edit form, right below "Editing MyPage". Here's what I mean:</i></div><div><br></div><div>Editing MyPage</div><div>Section: <u><b>ALL</b></u> <u>Title</u> <u>Section1</u> <u>Section2</u> <u>Section3</u></div><div><u><br></u></div><div>------------------(edit area)--------------------</div><div><br></div><div>(:title I am the page's title - change me:)</div><div><br></div><div>[[#Section1]]</div><div>This anchored section, like the title, can be edited without having to look at the rest of the page.</div><div>[[#Section1end]]</div><div><br></div><div>(:Section2: This PTV can be edited too.:)</div><div><br></div><div>Section3: So can this PTV</div><div><br></div><div>--------------------------------------------</div><div><br></div><div><i>If you open the page for editing (when you click on a link with "action=edit", restore from history, or are being shown a simultaneous edit conflict), you will see all the page's text, as usual. But above the edit area you will see section links. By clicking on a section link you can reduce the text in the edit area to just the text you want to edit. For example if you clicked on "Title" you would see:</i></div><div><br></div><div><div>Editing MyPage</div><div>Section: <u>All</u> <u><b>TITLE</b></u> <u>Section1</u> <u>Section2</u> <u>Section3</u></div></div><div><br></div><div><div>------------------(edit area)--------------------</div><div><br></div><div>I am the page's title - change me</div><div><br></div><div>--------------------------------------------</div><div><br></div><div>Ideally, the size of the edit area would be reduced for PTVs and Titles to a single line, but the most important thing is that the user isn't looking at uninteresting and unfriendly markup.</div></div></div></div></div></body></html>