[pmwiki-users] Kind-of Blog 1.1 released

Mikael Nilsson mini at nada.kth.se
Wed Dec 14 13:47:43 CST 2005


ons 2005-12-14 klockan 13:28 -0600 skrev Patrick R. Michaud:
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 02:18:52PM -0500, Ryan R. Varick wrote:
> > 
> > The question is how to do it?  Do I append another number onto the
> > entry (20051214 becomes 2005121400, 2005121401, ...)?  Saving pages by
> > date already reduces the effectiveness of wiki links anyway, since
> > authors have to reference pages in a cryptic date format, I fear this
> > will make it that much worse.
> 
> Reading many of Eliyahu Goldratt's books [1] has taught me that
> whenever there's an apparent conflict or contradiction, focus on the 
> part that bothers you most.  In this case I think we ought to eliminate
> the restriction of having blog entries be named by dates.  (This
> doesn't mean they cannot be so named, just that we don't require it.)
> 
> Okay, now for a naive question, since I'm not an active blogger -- 
> what's the reason behind having the blog entries named by date in 
> the first place?  Perhaps we can find another way to solve that 
> problem that doesn't require saving by date.

The reason is to enable searching by date. Now that the date is in the
blogentry markup, this is no longer a requirement. 

Many blog systems (wordpress, typically) just number the blog posts 1,
2, 3, 4... The actual information is stored in a database anyway.

Systems that support permalinks for posts (nicely formatted URLs that
contain hints about the content) usually combine a reformatted title
with either a sequence number or a date:

http://blog.philkern.de/archives/96-Oh-well,-theres-darcs!.html

http://www.frepa.org/wp/2005/12/13/mikael-nilssons-presentation-to-the-ieeelom-meeting-in-orlando-in-october-2005/

I find both acceptable. But not using either sequence nor date in the
post name makes it unnecessarily difficult to organize your posts.

So, I'd say name the blog item after the title, and include either a
sequence number or a date at the front. End of story. You get a nice
permalink, and you get a hint about when it was posted.

Proposal:

I enter the title:

"Today I made tea"

and the blog item is stored in:

20051214-TodayIMadeTea

or something like it. Looks relatively Wikiish, no?

/Mikael


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