[pmwiki-users] Re: Re: <div> markup suggestions...?
Jonathan Scott Duff
duff at pobox.com
Thu Mar 3 13:07:48 CST 2005
I've been completely ignoring pmwiki-users for a while but I'll jump
right in anyway. :-)
I simultaneously agree and disagree with Bronwyn:
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 12:05:10PM -0500, Bronwyn Boltwood wrote:
> I like these too. When I apply a div, I want to know where it ends,
Agreed. It should be crystal clear where the boundaries are.
> and these are clearly open on the relevant ends. I think that divs
> will be used much like wikistyles, so, even if divs aren't technically
> wikistyles, they should feel and work like them as much as possible.
Disagree. Styles are completely orthogonal to divisions. <div> tags
are about grouping things that are related in some way. Styles are
about manipulating pieces of text.
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 10:32:45AM -0600, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 12:03:34PM +1300, John Rankin wrote:
> Also reasonable. In many cases, however, I don't think of
> things in terms of "openers and closers", I just think of
> them as "okay, now I want to be in this mode".
That's because you use a modal editor ;-)
> And it doesn't seem to "read" as well as
>
> >>Pm<<
> This is stuff written by Pm
Sure it reads well, but what does it *mean*? If you're applying a Pm
style, there should be % somewhere. If you're just naming the
division then this is okay I guess.
And FWIW ">>%Pm%<<" doesn't look all that bad to me.
> If anything, the vertical nature of <div> probably means that our
> separators ought to look "horizontal" somehow
I agree.
>
> --% Pm
> -%Pm%-
> --%Pm%--
> %%%Pm%%%
>
> I dunno. Brainstorm some more. :-)
How about ====? People often use horizontal rules to divide their
pages into sections, this would just be an extra special hr :-)
====
This is the first division
With a second paragraph.
====
Just some more text to be more divisive :-)
Also with a second paragraph
====
The End.
If you want to style the divisions, use the normal styling stuff:
====%Pm%
This paragraph is rendered in the style of Pm
So is this one!
====
This paragraph is rendered "normally" (whatever that means)
-Scott
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Jonathan Scott Duff
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