[pmwiki-users] pages with (:redirect:) in group 'PmWiki'

Christian Bartolomaeus bartolin at gmx.de
Wed Mar 12 10:35:51 CDT 2008

Hi Pm,

On 2008-03-12, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 10:05:02PM +0100, Christian Bartolomaeus wrote:
> > So my questions are:
> > 
> > 1.) Would it be okay to tag those pages in PmWiki with a page text
> >     variable like
> >       (:Redirect: true:)
> >     If so, we could filter our list of "relevant" documenation pages
> >     based on this page text variable.
> > 
> > 2.) Is there a better way to filter those pages? 
> We don't need the page variable to do the filter -- one can
> also do the following to filter out all pages containing "(:redirect":
>     (:pagelist -"(:redirect" :)

There seems to be a small problem with this approach since this
pagelist excludes pages like PmWiki/MarkupMasterIndex -- e.g. pages
which have no active redirect but who describe that directive.

> > 3.) Would is be okay to delete pages with a simple redirect directive
> >     in 'PmWiki' -- after searching for 'back links' and adjusting
> >     those? Since there would still be problems with external links to
> >     those pages it might be better to keep them.
> I don't know that there would be many external links left.  For 
> example, a Google search for
>     "link:www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/SimpleTables"
> returns no results.  So, in this case it's probably okay to
> make sure all of the internal links are correct and then
> remove the page.  (And if we discover we're wrong, we can
> always put the redirect page back.)

On 2008-03-12, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 10:05:02PM +0100, Christian Bartolomaeus wrote:
> > 
> > there are some pages in the group 'PmWiki' which simple redirect to
> > other pages (e.g. WikiWords -> WikiWord, SimpleTables -> Tables ...).
> Also, note that the WikiWords -> WikiWord page is part of the
> actual distribution -- i.e., PmWiki ships with both pages,
> so it shouldn't (can't) be deleted.

Based on this advice I build a list of "deprecated pages" in the group
'PmWiki' (see [1]).

If we want to keep both versions of the following pages

  WikiWord              -- WikiWords
  WikiGroup             -- WikiGroups
  PerGroupCustomization -- PerGroupCustomizations

that leaves us with the following candidates for deletion.


Also, there are no backlinks to


I'm a bit reluctant to delete those pages -- maybe you can have a look
at my list first.

Best regards

[1] http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Test/PagesInPmWikiGroupWithRedirect
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