[Pmwiki-users] Re: page draft tryout

J. Meijer commentgg
Sat Jul 17 14:09:38 CDT 2004


----- Original Message -----
John Rankin wrote:
>J.Meijer wrote:

>>I got a bit lost :-/
>It does take a bit of getting used to. The conventions are here:
>http://intranet.affinity.co.nz/wiki/DraftWP/Conventions
>I think it's good for specialised uses, not general wiki editing.

I confess I didn't have much time to begin with. Sorry for that.

>>What I would like to see is the bare minimum: only when viewing the page
one would see a link to the draft, and from the draft back to the original.
Each page has an EditPage link, which works the same as it does now. Really
simplistic.
> If I understand you correctly, I don't think that quite works
> For your scheme to work safely, I think we'd have to come up with a way to
make it obvious that a newer draft is about to be over-written and any
changes will be lost.

You're of course correct. That's the problem of working with only a single
draft. I would prefer to go with multiple drafts in the future. Maybe now if
it solves this problem in a preferred way.

I think once a draft exists, the save-to-draft capability should be
disabled. In effect only one user at a time can use the draft feature. In a
more professional environment there will be persons responsible for the
content of a page. These persons can use (=collaborate on) the draft, others
can't.

So the solution may be to disable drafts for unauthorized authors. This will
probably conflict with the current authorization scheme.

BTW I have implemented my own (with groups, guests and authors) and after
some more testing I'll make it available. It is part of a much bigger
overhaul though.

>>And what would you do about links to pages where a draft exists but there
isn't an original?

- When people actually /visit/ the page, in my opinion it is soon enough so
show them there is a draft, a line in the header or footer would do nicely.
Even when no original exists!

Alternatively, coloring of the link or background has my preference, f.e.:
  red          => page does not exist
  yellow      => draft exist (original may not exist)
No other colors would be needed. The current '?' can stay the way it is,
providing a link to edit.

That said and having visited the site a second time, I felt more welcome.
The symbols continue to be somewhat strange (they could be icons instead),
but the behaviour is very much welcome. And it's good to see a pmwiki site
and the care invested, f.e. in the menu and the (clean) layout. Nice!
One thing I thoroughly don't understand (read appreciate) is that the page
content does not center in the browser window, is this necessity? Just
curious.

Thanks,

jan







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