[pmwiki-users] Re: yet another documentation suggestion ...

V.Krishn mistyfire at autograf.pl
Wed Aug 3 20:16:47 CDT 2005


On Thursday 04 August 2005 05:36, John Rankin wrote:
> On Thursday, 4 August 2005 8:00 AM, V.Krishn <mistyfire at autograf.pl> wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >On all pages we could start inserting:
> >eg. http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Test/MetaKeywords
> >(:title <test>:)
> >(:keywords <word list>:)
> >(:description <text>:)
> >
> >This would not only make the pages search engine friendly but very
> > friendly to pmwiki's own search capability.
>
> <standardsBigot>
> I wonder if it's time to start thinking about a more general
> metadata scheme.
>
> We may wish to consider adopting the Dublin Core standard
> for the metadata associated with a wiki page. In particular,
> there is:
> http://www.emacswiki.org/cw/DublinCoreForWiki
>
> There was a pmwiki 1 recipe for this:
> http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook-V1/MetaData
>
> Whether the metadata should be embedded in the page content or
> as an associated metadata record is an open question:
Dynamic generations of metadata sounds good.
>
> + having a metadata form makes it easy for people to add metadata
> + the metadata doesn't get in the way when editing a page
>
> - people need to understand what 'metadata' means
> - updating the content of a page can make the metadata incorrect
>
> The markup [[PageName?action=dc]] would show the metadata
Has this become a standard, recognized by all meta-readers and search-engines:
 <link rel="meta" href="http://wiki.example.com/ExamplePage?action=dc" /> ?
> associated with a particular page. This would also be built
> into the HTML header, so DC harvesters can pick up the metadata.
> For example, it would be fairly easy, I think, to make PmWiki
> OAI-PMH compliant (open archives initiative protocol for
> metadata harvesting), if desired.
>
> This would also allow a wiki search to show a full metadata record,
> or selected parts of it.
>
> </standardsBigot>
One strange thing, this page
http://www.emacswiki.org/cw/DublinCoreForWiki
describes <dc:description> -- ignore, or use the first paragraph of the wiki 
page. 

Which means the standard HTML <meta name='description' content=text /> is 
ignored or not taken into account. :-(

Secondly, similarly it ommits the meta Keywords??
Please guide me if the grasp is loose.

So now we can start with some present standards like:
(:title <test>:)
(:keywords <word list>:)
(:description <text>:)

and implementing a script to extract meta according to definitions by 
DublinCore into 
<link rel="meta" href="http://wiki.example.com/ExamplePage?action=dc" /> 
would not be difficult, infact it would be quite similar to rss module.
>
> Perhaps if there are any librarians reading the list, they
> may wish to comment on this proposal.
V.Krishn




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